henchminion ([info]henchminion) wrote,
@ 2006-03-02 22:38:00
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L'esprit d'escalier
So last night after sword practice and a goodly quantity of beer, the conversation turned to religion and politics and the subject of the Danish cartoons came up yet again. I think the cartoons are obnoxious and shouldn't have been published, but I don't think I held up my side of the debate particularly well. It wasn't until this morning that I came up with a good analogy to explain my position.

Supposing we're all sitting around the armoury one night, and I crack a joke about one member's dead wife. Everyone thinks the joke is hilarious, except for that member. When he says "Guys, that's not funny," I say "Shut up, it's a free country." While it's true that I'm acting well within my rights, it still makes me a jerk. And the fact that everyone else thinks the joke is funny is also a bit beside the point.

If the guy whose wife I'm mocking gets really irritated and turns around and socks me, it is true that he's wrong to turn the matter into a fist fight. And if I charge him with assault and run around complaining about how he's trying to trample my freedom of speech, I am still within my legal rights. However, that makes me a pretty sucky schoolyard bully, doesn't it?



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[info]damedini
2006-03-03 02:17 am UTC (link)
Very good point.

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[info]yaksman
2006-03-03 03:25 pm UTC (link)
It's true that sort of behaviour would mark someone as a jerk, and they'd likely end up ostracized.
Escalating it to a physical confrontation would be even worse.

The Danish cartoons were a stupid, and deliberately offensive act. Rioting and killing people over them is much, much worse.

The proper response to idiots being tasteless in an attempt to gain a response is to ignore them, and if possible ostracize them. If this hadn't been blown all out of proportion by rioters and media feeding on one another, few of us would ever have heard about this bad joke.

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[info]henchminion
2006-03-03 09:53 pm UTC (link)
I mostly agree with you there, except about ignoring the situation. Bullies thrive when people ignore what they're doing. I'd be more inclined to follow Kinsella's Second Rule of Political Communication and leave no charge unanswered.

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[info]yaksman
2006-03-03 10:17 pm UTC (link)
I'll bow to your superior knowledge of all things political, but I will offer one refinement regarding bullies.

Bullies thrive when people in authority ignore what they're doing. If their victims can ignore them, they wither and die. If the muslim community had reacted to these cartoons with a shrug, the cartoons would not now be republished around the world.

I must admit, visualizing an independent Danish cartoonist as bullying the entire 'nation' of Islam is a trifle jarring.

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[info]henchminion
2006-03-04 03:33 am UTC (link)
It wasn't one cartoonist. A major newspaper actively solicited the cartoons from the public. Also, the cartoons were making headlines in the Toronto Star and presumably around the world several days before the rioting broke out.

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